{"newsItem":{"id":"https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/05/stock-market-today-live-updates.html","title":"Dow rallies 300 points on strong jobs report, S&P 500 tops 6,000: Live updates - CNBC","url":"https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/05/stock-market-today-live-updates.html","score":null,"time":1749227640,"by":"Sean Conlon, Jesse Pound","descendants":0,"kids":[],"comments":"","text":"Stocks jumped Friday after the latest nonfarm payrolls data came in better than expected, easing concern the economy faces an imminent slowdown.","type":"story","parent":0},"comments":[{"id":44211144,"title":"","url":"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44211144","score":null,"time":1749317673,"by":"dkislyuk","descendants":0,"kids":[44211452,44211478,44211521,44211659],"comments":"","text":"From Walter Isaacson's _Steve Jobs_:

> One of Bill Atkinson’s amazing feats (which we are so accustomed to nowadays that we rarely marvel at it) was to allow the windows on a screen to overlap so that the “top” one clipped into the ones “below” it. Atkinson made it possible to move these windows around, just like shuffling papers on a desk, with those below becoming visible or hidden as you moved the top ones. Of course, on a computer screen there are no layers of pixels underneath the pixels that you see, so there are no windows actually lurking underneath the ones that appear to be on top. To create the illusion of overlapping windows requires complex coding that involves what are called “regions.” Atkinson pushed himself to make this trick work because he thought he had seen this capability during his visit to Xerox PARC. In fact the folks at PARC had never accomplished it, and they later told him they were amazed that he had done so. “I got a feeling for the empowering aspect of naïveté”, Atkinson said. “Because I didn’t know it couldn’t be done, I was enabled to do it.” He was working so hard that one morning, in a daze, he drove his Corvette into a parked truck and nearly killed himself. Jobs immediately drove to the hospital to see him. “We were pretty worried about you”, he said when Atkinson regained consciousness. Atkinson gave him a pained smile and replied, “Don’t worry, I still remember regions.”","type":"comment","parent":44210606},{"id":44211585,"title":"","url":"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44211585","score":null,"time":1749321329,"by":"JKCalhoun","descendants":0,"kids":[],"comments":"","text":"When I was on the ColorSync team at Apple we, the engineers, got an invite to his place-in-the-woods one day.

I knew who he was at the time, but for some reason I felt I was more or less beholden to conversing only about color-related issues and how they applied to a computer workflow. Having retired, I have been kicking myself for some time not just chatting with him about ... whatever.

He was at the time I met him very in to a kind of digital photography. My recollection was that he had a high-end drum scanner and was in fact scanning film negatives (medium format camera?) and then going with a digital workflow from that point on. I remember he was excited about the way that "darks" could be captured (with the scanner?). A straight analog workflow would, according to him, cause the darks to roll off (guessing the film was not the culprit then, perhaps the analog printing process).

He excitedly showed us on his computer photos he took along the Pacific ocean of large rock outcroppings against the ocean — pointing out the detail that you could see in the shadow of the rocks. He was putting together a coffee table book of his photos at the time.

I have to say that I mused at the time about a wealthy, retired, engineer who throws money at high end photo gear and suddenly thinks they're a photographer. I think I was weighing his "technical" approach to photography vs. a strictly artistic one. Although, having learned more about Ansel Adams technical chops, perhaps for the best photographers there is overlap.","type":"comment","parent":44210606},{"id":44211808,"title":"","url":"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44211808","score":null,"time":1749323079,"by":"bigstrat2003","descendants":0,"kids":[],"comments":"","text":"For anyone (like me) wondering who this guy was, he was a prominent UI guy at Apple back in the day. According to Wikipedia he created the menu bar, QuickDraw, and HyperCard.

For whomever submits stories like this, please say who the person was. Very few people are so famous that everyone in tech knows who they were, and Mr. Atkinson was not one of them. I've heard of his accomplishments, but never the man himself.","type":"comment","parent":44210606},{"id":44210873,"title":"","url":"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44210873","score":null,"time":1749315462,"by":"WillAdams","descendants":0,"kids":[44210913],"comments":"","text":"Some notable stories from Folklore.org:

https://www.folklore.org/Joining_Apple_Computer.html

https://www.folklore.org/Negative_2000_Lines_Of_Code.html --- something to bring up whenever lines of code as a metric is put forward

https://www.folklore.org/Rosings_Rascals.html --- story of how the Macintosh Finder came to be

https://www.folklore.org/I_Still_Remember_Regions.html --- surviving a car accident","type":"comment","parent":44210606},{"id":44211086,"title":"","url":"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44211086","score":null,"time":1749317193,"by":"matthewn","descendants":0,"kids":[44211247,44211798,44211599,44211390,44211356],"comments":"","text":"In an alternate timeline, HyperCard was not allowed to wither and die, but instead continued to mature, embraced the web, and inspired an entire genre of software-creating software. In this timeline, people shape their computing experiences as easily as one might sculpt a piece of clay, creating personal apps that make perfect sense to them and fit like a glove; computing devices actually become (for everyone, not just programmers) the "bicycle for the mind" that Steve Jobs spoke of. I think this is the timeline that Atkinson envisioned, and I wish I lived in it. We've lost a true visionary. Memory eternal!","type":"comment","parent":44210606}],"moreItems":[{"id":"https://www.quantamagazine.org/first-map-made-of-a-solids-secret-quantum-geometry-20250606/","title":"First Map Made of a Solid’s Secret Quantum Geometry - quantamagazine.org","url":"https://www.quantamagazine.org/first-map-made-of-a-solids-secret-quantum-geometry-20250606/","score":null,"time":1749219295,"by":"Unknown","descendants":0,"kids":[],"comments":"","text":"Physicists recently mapped the hidden shape that underlies the quantum behaviors of a crystal, using a new method that’s expected to become ubiquitous.","type":"story","parent":0},{"id":"the-jerusalem-post","title":"GHF denies reports of violence at aid sites after announcing temporary site closures - The Jerusalem Post","url":"https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-856798","score":null,"time":1749218820,"by":"By JERUSALEM POST STAFF, REUTERS","descendants":0,"kids":[],"comments":"","text":"The GHF opened two sites in southern Gaza on Thursday after closing all of its centers the previous day in the wake of shootings in the vicinity of its operations.","type":"story","parent":0},{"id":"https://bloodyelbow.com/2025/06/06/ufc-316-main-event-predicted-by-fighter-who-has-shared-the-octagon-with-merab-dvalishvili-and-sean-omalley/","title":"UFC 316 main event predicted by fighter who has shared the Octagon with Merab Dvalishvili and Sean O'Malley - 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